Working with Forneus: rhetoric, reputation, and turning enemies into friends

Forneus, and why this article is about speech

Forneus is a Marquis in the Goetia, and the Grimoire Companion entry for him is direct: he teaches rhetoric and languages, grants a good reputation, and turns enemies into friends. That is the point of working with Forneus, and it is what most people will be working with him on. This article is not about spirit work in general. It is about Forneus work in particular, and about speech, reputation, and enmity as serious, specific matters, not as vague wishes.

Speech is the thread that runs through all three parts of that entry. Rhetoric is the art of speaking well, and speaking persuasively, in a setting where words carry weight. Languages are the means by which that speaking happens, and learning a language, or learning to use your own language better, changes what you can say and to whom. A good reputation is, in large part, what other people say about you when you are not in the room, and it is built, or damaged, by speech over time. And enemies becoming friends is, in ordinary life, very often a matter of speech too: of a conversation that goes differently from the ones before it, of words that are heard rather than dismissed, of a misunderstanding named plainly instead of left to harden.

That is why this article keeps coming back to preparation and to a clear, single-sentence purpose. With Forneus, be specific about which part of the entry you mean: rhetoric, languages, reputation, or the turning of an enemy into a friend. Those are different petitions, and they should not be blurred together. A petition that asks for all of them at once, in general terms, is hard to read afterwards, and a clear petition is easier to work with.

Starting with the work, not with the tool

Spirit work is not shopping, and a seal pendant does not do the work for you. Before you wear anything, be clear about why you are doing this working, what you are asking for, and what you are prepared to do yourself. If you cannot state the matter in one clear sentence, write it down, leave it overnight, and come back to see if it still reads true. That pause is part of the work, not a delay in it.

With Forneus, that clarity has an ordinary side that should not be skipped. If the petition concerns rhetoric, ask yourself what speaking you actually have to do: a presentation, a negotiation, a difficult conversation, a piece of writing that will be read by people who matter. If it concerns reputation, ask yourself, honestly, what has actually been said about you, by whom, and what you have done, in ordinary life, that bears on it. If it concerns an enemy, ask yourself who that person is, what the enmity actually consists of, and what a friendship with them would look like in practical terms, not in general sentiment. A working that is not matched by ordinary conduct, and by ordinary speech, is a working built on sand.

If you are working in the Goetia system, work from the instructions and teaching you already follow in that system. A general article like this one is not a substitute for proper teaching, and it should not be used to invent a purpose for a spirit you have not studied.

A pendant is worn, and that difference matters

A seal pendant is worn differently from a seal kept only in a ritual room, and that difference changes the work. A pendant hangs close to the body, and can be tucked away, taken off, or held in the hand. It is present through the ordinary day, as well as through the working, and that suits Forneus work in a particular way. Rhetoric, reputation, and enmity are not matters that happen only in a ritual room, on a single night. They happen, or fail to happen, in ordinary life: in conversations, in meetings, in the way you present yourself to other people, day after day. A pendant worn through that ordinary life keeps the working present in the very setting where speech and reputation are actually lived.

Before you order a pendant, ask yourself whether you want that daily presence, or whether you would rather keep the working separate from ordinary life. Both are legitimate, but they are not the same choice, and ordering one when you meant the other leads to a pendant that is either worn with discomfort, or left in a box. Choose deliberately, and choose the form that fits the life you actually live.

The pendant offered here is 2 inches across, as its title states. That is a substantial size for a pendant, large enough for the seal to be seen clearly when it is held or set out, and to be felt as a presence when it is worn. It is a working size, and it should be worn, or carried, with that in mind, not treated as a small charm that disappears under clothing and is forgotten.

How a lost-wax cast seal is made

The seals offered here are lost wax cast seals of the Daemon Demons of the various grimoires. They are pure metal which is actually cast, starting with a wax version.

In lost-wax casting, the seal is first worked in wax, then cast in metal from that wax form. The wax is lost in the process, which is where the name comes from, and the metal that remains is a solid, cast object, not a printed shell. You can feel that difference when you hold it: a cast seal has weight, it has a surface that shows the hand work, and it does not have the layered texture of a printed object.

That is the form offered here: a cast seal made to be worn, with the means of wearing it built into the object itself. That process also explains why a cast seal is made to order, and why it takes time. Forneus is a listed pendant, so the shorter timing applies to it in principle, but timing can change with the work queue, and it should be settled at ordering, not assumed from an article.

Preparing to work with Forneus

Preparation is most of the work, and with Forneus that preparation starts with language itself. Know what you are going to say, in your own words, and know what you are not going to say. A petition that tries to cover every possible outcome usually covers none of them well. Keep it direct, keep it honest, and keep it to the matter at hand. If your practice calls for a formal form of address, use the form you have been taught. If it does not, plain, direct words said once, clearly, are better than a long improvisation that loses its shape halfway through.

Then prepare yourself in the ordinary sense. Bathe, or at least wash your hands and face, and change into clothes you do not wear for ordinary errands, when you are doing a formal working. This is not about looking a certain way for anyone else. It is about marking, for yourself, that this time is set apart. Eat simply beforehand if you can, and avoid starting a working when you are exhausted, drunk, or already agitated. A clear head is a working tool, just as much as a seal or oil is, and with Forneus work, where speech is the matter itself, a clear head is the first tool of all.

When the pendant arrives, do not start by wearing it everywhere at once. Take time to look at it, to hold it, and to set it aside in a clean place that is used for your working tools. If your practice calls for cleansing or consecration of a new tool, follow the instructions you already follow in your system.

Working with the seal, in the general way seals are worked

With Forneus, each of these has a particular fit.

Holding the seal, when you are preparing to speak, or when you are reflecting on a conversation that went badly, is a way of bringing the working back to attention at the moment it is needed. Putting it under a candle is a way of keeping it present through a working, set beneath the flame, in the space where the work is done, for the duration of the rite. Putting oil on it is anointing: marking it deliberately, naming the purpose in your own words, with an oil made for that kind of work. The Forneus oil and the Forneus incense, both offered on this site, are the matching companions for this pendant, for the same work with Forneus.

Carrying the pendant, and wearing it, keep the working present in the conversations where rhetoric and reputation are actually tested. Showing it to the desired person is mentioned in the general guidance, and with Forneus work it deserves a plain word. Showing a seal is not a trick, and it is not a substitute for speaking plainly to the person concerned. If your practice calls for showing the seal, do it openly, as part of a working you understand. The speaking, in Forneus work above all, still has to be done by you, in your own words, in the ordinary world.

A simple working order, to adapt to your own practice

The following is a general order, not a fixed script. Adapt it to the system you already work in. First, prepare the room and yourself, as above. Second, set out the pendant, and any oil, incense, or candle you will use. Third, anoint or fumigate the pendant, if your practice calls for it, deliberately, naming the purpose in your own words. Fourth, speak your petition, clearly and once, rather than repeating it until it loses its shape. Fifth, sit quietly for a time and listen, rather than filling every moment with more words. Sixth, close the working properly, in whatever way your practice requires, and keep the pendant on, or put it away in its proper place, as your practice requires.

Afterwards, write down what you did, when you did it, and what you noticed. Not what you hoped would happen, but what actually happened, in plain language. With Forneus work, note the ordinary record alongside it: what you said, to whom, how it was received, and what changed in the conversation, the reputation, or the relationship itself, in plain terms. If nothing changes, that is also information. It may mean the petition was unclear, the timing was wrong, the work was not appropriate, or simply that the situation needs a different approach.

Do not repeat the same working endlessly in the hope that repetition alone will force a result. Do the work properly, once, observe, and then decide, calmly, whether a second working, a different approach, or no further working is the right next step. Repetition without reflection is not persistence. It is noise.

Forneus seal pendant, 2 inches, and the oil and incense to go with it

If you are doing spirit work with Forneus, for rhetoric, languages, reputation, or the turning of an enemy into a friend, the pendant is for wearing and working with, not for show.

I offer this as: Forneus cast Daemon Demon seal pendant 2 inches, $216 CAD, lost wax cast, made to order. View the product

I also make the companions for the same work: Forneus Goetia grimoire demon evocation oil, $44 CAD, and Forneus Goetia incense, $44 CAD. View the product

I make no promise about what any of these will do for you, only that the seal is cast by hand, for this work, and not mass produced.

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